Jacinda confused about NZ abortion law

by Jacqui de Ruiter, President of Voice for Life

On Monday night’s Leaders Debate, Patrick Gower asked Jacinda Ardern what she would do about abortion if she became Prime Minister.

Without hesitation, she said there would be no review, abortion would be “decriminalised”.

I suspect that the majority of viewers would think that her use of the word “decriminalize”, means that women seeking an abortion are somehow under the current law, “criminals”.

She was saying in effect, “I will remove the law and you won’t be treated as criminals.”

That is really misleading and she is saying this out of ignorance of what the 1961 Crimes Act states, or she does know and is willfully creating an impression.

The fact is that Section 183 (2) of the Crimes Act states that no woman can be convicted for having an abortion.

We have had lawyers check it out and that is what the law says. Look up the 1961 Crimes Act online and see for yourself.

Immunity from prosecution for an abortion is a British and American legal tradition (and by extension to New Zealand) going back over 150 years. It is based on the premise and experience that it was practically impossible to produce safe evidence for a conviction.

There could be factors like coercion involved. Instead the courts focused on the abortionist and held that immunity from prosecution, enabled women to freely testify against them.

Therefore, the reality is that when abortion-rights supporters and their allies in Parliament talk of “decriminalization”, there is actually nothing to decriminalize, with the exception of Section 44, which is employed as a safety deterrent to protect women.

Now, wearing my nurse’s hat, I ask you to consider the implications of what Jacinda is supporting. She is supporting unrestricted abortion up to birth.

If she isn’t, then she should quickly tell us what restrictions she wants set in place.

As a nurse over many years of practical experience, I have cared for pregnant women in often difficult circumstances and there are always two patients: the mother and her baby.

We are no longer ignorant, or in the dark, about the reality of what a baby looks like in the womb, because of the development of ultrasound pictures.

Pregnant women take delight in showing the pictures to their family, friends and workmates, so today there is a much greater awareness of what a baby looks like.

Which brings me to the procedures nurses would be required to assist with, if Jacinda and her like-minded colleagues bring in unrestricted abortion.

Second-trimester abortions involved dismemberment of the living baby. The operating surgeon leaves the room and the nurses are left to clean up. The baby has to be re-assembled to ensure that no body tissue is left in the uterus and then prepared for disposal as “medical waste”.

Third-trimester abortions involve an injection of potassium chloride into the baby’s heart and then labour is induced. Were it not for the lethal injection, these babies could be born alive and there are plenty of couples who would love to adopt them.

Some nursing staff can handle late-term abortions, but many find it very distressing and dread seeing their names on the roster. Internal briefing papers to the Ministry of Health from District Health Boards describe the problems and the difficulty retaining staff.

It’s all very well for Jacinda and her colleagues to talk of “decriminalisation” and no restrictions, but they will never have to help provide “service delivery” in an abortion operating theatre.

The model they want to bring in here is the Abortion Law Reform Act passed by the Victorian State Parliament in 2008. It allows for abortion up to birth.

When the Bill was being debated, an amendment was introduced to mandate giving pain relief to second-trimester babies facing dismemberment. It was voted down by a large majority, which tells you something.

Comment List

  • Malcolm Waddell 09 / 09 / 2017 Reply

    The strange thing is, that, I was reading that she has a book about Norman Kirk, and quotes Peter Fraser, opportunities for the young etc.
    Labour PM Norman Kirk, declared, ‘As long as I am leader of the Labour Party, this, (abortion), will not be on our agenda!’
    He went to a hospital to ‘listen’ to the beating heart of an 11 week old unborn human.
    Ruth Kirk joined the SPUC, as a protest against the abortion lobby in the Party.
    I guess ‘Jacinda’ ignored those parts in the book?
    Perhaps like Norman, she can put ‘principles’ into ‘action’, and go to a ‘clinic’ to witness an abortion, and help sew the parts back together, and ‘hug’ his or her mother?
    Anything less would be ‘unprincipled politics surely?

  • Philip 09 / 09 / 2017 Reply

    Pro choice is pro choice

  • Jennifer 10 / 09 / 2017 Reply

    Any of us could have been aborted. However, our lives were uninterrupted and we were born. I used to pro choice until I had a child. I was unable to fathom the thought. I watched the short documentary ‘The Silent Scream’ that Gender Studies suggested we watch back in the day (ironically implying we would find it ridiculous as it was anti-abortion) but it was so disturbing. The baby’s limbs are broken up and then the head is crushed so that it can be extracted through the cervix. I think many women think you just take a pill that dissolves things. If you look it up, many medical professionals argued against newborns being given painkillers for surgery because they didn’t feel pain. But anyone with a baby knows that is ridiculous. I *think* that has changed now. But it was a real thing- newborn babies didn’t get pain relief. So if a baby can feel pain, I think an unborn baby can feel pain. If they’re unlikely to survive long after birth (I.e. people get abortions for medical reasons – the baby is unlikely to live long) I think laying the baby on your chest abd letting it breathe in mum’s scent until it passes – that is a more humane way to let baby pass. Like I said, I was once pro choice but now I am just saddened. After having a baby I could never have an abortion.

  • Trish 29 / 08 / 2019 Reply

    I do not go to church now, I used to right up till I was 15., but not now. Saying that does not make me a disbeliever in the creator of life., all life. I lost a child I was carrying to 6 1/2 months., I had a perforated appendix. The baby was born 12 hours after my op, I was not even allowed to see him. My husband did, he said that he was just perfect but too small. This was in the mid sixties and things were not the same as they are now., I am sure that if it had happened in this day and age he would be still alive. I also lost another child at 20 weeks as I miscarried, no-one would tell me what sex the baby was. I was very ill, and very sad, I personally could not have an abortion, and the idea that these unborns can be aborted like they are garbage right up to 20 weeks is absolutely unbelievable. I read also, that the law proposed means no pre-abortion counselling will be required, and doctors are going to be stripped of their conscience rights. Also, how could anyone in their right mind even suggest abortion could be available right up till birth. It is pure evil. I watched The Silent Scream, it was a very hard watch, I was so upset. These innocents just don’t seem to have a voice. Human beings are supposed to be intelligent, able to think, but in all honesty I am seriously beginning to wonder.

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